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Interview: 22 Arcade Machines + 1 House = Awesome Party and Brian Saur

March 3rd, 2008 Written by: Artie· 28 Comments

brians17TW2-27-08In it’s heyday, arcade gaming had it’s galaxies, and Los Angeles was one of the most magnificent. The games’ communal blue radiation and discordant 8-bit symphonies spilled across the sidewalks, boardwalks, and galleria food courts.

Today these classic machines, arguably the pillars on which the industry was built, have all but disappeared from public view. They have moved from the street into the houses, basements, and living rooms of people like Brian Saur.

Brian has 22 original arcade machines scattered across his house, self maintained and lovingly preserved. Periodically he opens his doors to hold video game parties for friends and family. LA.CityZine.com was lucky enough to be on the invite list so we sat down to find out more about what motivates someone to turn their family home into Los Angeles’ version of Funspot.

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Where did your love for games begin?

I don’t know, I guess I have nostalgic roots as far as gaming is concerned, the stuff I tend to like is stuff I used to like and it evolves from there. I’m open to anything as far as the newest xbox and ps3 games or whatever, but there’s something really neat about older, simplistic stuff….There’s something zen about it, mastering something simple.

What do you mean by “Zen”?

I listen to interviews with the collectors and the phrase I always hear is “easy to learn, difficult to master.” That doesn’t really apply to many games nowadays, but that’s a fairly universal quality in classic games. They’re pretty easy to pick up.

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How many stand-up machines do you currently own?

Right now, I have 22, but one of them is not working at all. It needs a board, so I don’t really count that one. So 21 when they’re all working.

How did this all start?

I had a DVD collection that was probably in the 900+ range, which I know is not remarkable as far as collections go. I started collecting in 2000, up through last year. I still have [a few] but I decided to jettison them at some point. I bought Gauntlet about two years ago and then a multicade machine which is essentially an emulator setup on a PC board. Then I got into the real old games. There’s something about emulation that just isn’t quite right. I sold the two multicade machines, one that was custom made with five boards and another that was 48-in-one. I got those and a Pengo and then stopped for six-eight months.

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Is there an attraction using original machines as opposed to emulators?

Oh yeah, absolutely. Asteroids is a really big one for me. [some machines] throw a joystick on stuff that isn’t necessarily joystick based. Asteroids is all about the button controls.

What about the screen itself?

Yeah, the vector screen, there’s no real substitute for the original vector monitor. You definitely lose something [with emulation]

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Are vector monitors still being manufactured?

They’re no longer manufactured as far as I know so the have to be maintained. I don’t want to say they’re easy to refurbish because that makes it sound like I can do it [and I can't]. As far as the retailers that are out there, the big vector games like Asteroids, Star Wars, and Tempest were so highly produced, there was something like, 40-50,000 Asteroid machines made (something really ridiculous) that it keeps up the supply of monitors.

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How do the older machines, such as Asteroids hold up?

I got lucky with that one, it’s in pretty good shape. All I had to do was replace the plastic bezel part. Someone had scratched a gang symbol or something into it. There are a lot of suppliers who make reproduction parts, overlays. Mine is a little fucked up. Asteroids is tricky because you have to remove the control panel and have someone re-silkscreen a new one. But, I don’t really mind the little nicks here and there. There’s a certain authenticity to that, that’s kind of nice too.

Are you interested in the physical history of the machine?

Yeah! Whenever I can I like to know the history of the games. I haven’t receieved a ton of history on the ones that I have, but my Robotron was in a 7-11 for its entire lifetime. There’s a big cigarette burn on the control panel, which I should replace. But, oddly it’s nice that it’s there, I don’t know what it is.

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How long have you been hosting Game Nights for Guests?

About year-ish, I think.

How many Game Nights have you had?

Once we started rolling, it was about every three months. So we’ve probably done about four.

What machine gets the most traffic from guests?

Well I have a habit of collecting obscure or weird stuff, same goes for my taste in movies, so a lot of the games I have are ones people haven’t seen before. The ones people know are the ones you would expect. Star Wars, Asteroids, Tempest. Those three get a lot of the attention. People are drawn to Star Wars, that’s why I put it near the front. Hypersports has been getting some play, though. So has Gauntlet.

 

brians7TW2-27-08Is everyone kind to the machines?

I didn’t notice any [abuse], but I was a little concerned about it. There’s this great collector named Peter Hirschberg. He’s amazing, he’s got a ridiculous collection, sixty-some machines. He expanded on his garage and made this huge arcade room. He has game days, he had his first about a month ago and I’ve been emailing him. He’s been trying to get me out there for the next one, which we’re seriously considering doing because it looks like such a phenomenal event. He has been experiencing problems though, after the last game day he had a bunch of machines go down. But, he does all his own maintenance and I don’t do that, so I think that’s the reason he may have a little more trouble than I do. He gets them working and if they get played too much [it can be bad for the machines]. So, I was worried about with my game night but nothing went down. That was pretty cool.

You’re the sole investor here?

Yeah, all me.

No one pays any “club dues?”

No, no, I wouldn’t feel right about that. It’s just about people having a good time.

How did you manage to get all of these games into your house?

I was first really intimidated about moving the machines around. But you realize you can rent an F150 and put a game in there pretty easily. And the other collectors have techniques for moving the games around. I might need a little help getting it into a truck but I got the Asteroids machine out of the cab myself with a trick my friend told me about. You just get an appliance dolly and think about leverage in a different way. [Arcade machines] are all over the place, craigslist, Ebay, they’re a lot easier to find than people think, and a lot more affordable than people would think. It’s just a matter if you want to…commit the space.

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And is the care a problem?

You get what you pay for. Some of the machines…the reason I started liquidating dvds is that some [games] were kinda pricey and in good condition. It made sense to shell out for that.

Which one stands out as the personal favorite?

Whew….That’s tough… Well it’s always changing. I’m actually a little bummed because the one maintenance snag we hit before the party was Kick, the clown game with the balloons. That is a really fun game, I don’t know what it is about that one, I really, really like it though. Asteroids is big…Robotron is a lot of fun. I’m all over the place. The prizes of the collection are probably Food Fight and Timber, because those are both pretty rare. They had production numbers under 1500 and both are in good shape. Both I got from the same guy in Santa Maria.

Do you have a preference with regards to home consoles?

I like the new stuff. We’ve been into the Wii a lot. What I’ve seen of the Ps3 and Xbox is impressive, but what we like goes in waves. The Nintendo 64 with Goldeneye, that’s a title we play all the time. Lisa [Brian’s Fiancee] and her son jump in.

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Have you ever thought of opening up a classic arcade to the public?

I don’t think I could ever. I think it would change the whole dynamic. I like the way people come over and just play. I don’t want to charge anything. Then there’s outside investors…Nah.

Are there any acquisitions currently in play? Any machines you’re looking for right now?

The two big ones are Q*bert and Paperboy. They’re fairly common but I’m trying to find the right ones. Ones that are close. The collectors have a remarkable patience for waiting for titles to pop up. I’ve had games shipped and it’s kind of expensive. I’ve got a couple more coming. In the next month or two, but Q*bert and Paperboy are high my list to close things out, so to speak.

And then it’s on to Afterburner?

[laughs] Only if I can get a cockpit, yeah.

Thanks for your time, Brian.

No problem.

photo © Artie

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28 responses so far ↓

  • 1 David Markland // Mar 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Sweet. What’s the address, and when should I come over? ;)

    Great interview, but the one question I’d like to have answered is about the power bill, and if he has problems blowing fuses. I can barely run the microwave without it causing a blackout in my apartment.

  • 2 Ray Rivera // Mar 6, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Man I remember Atari football. I played it as a kid in the early 80’s in Cocoa Beach Florida at some pizza place. Great memories.

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  • 5 Russell James // Mar 6, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Sweet Nostalgia. There is just something about those vector screens that sends you back to the late 80s and a bowl haircut.

    I’m with David on this also. That guys power bill must be huge.

    Great Interview.

  • 6 fak3r // Mar 6, 2008 at 11:58 am

    What a kick ass article, I’m old enough to remember going to an arcade with blacklights all over on a Saturday night with Journey playing on the PA! The image of the Robotron machine gave me chills, probably my all time fav, along with Defender and Donkey Kong. Ah to have those 3 in the basement…

    Thanks for the article, very cool!

  • 7 free playstation 3 // Mar 6, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Scweeeet… yeah, I miss the old arcades too… back in the day they were everywhere. Was a fun Sat. afternoon :D

    I must say though, for me emulation does the job pretty well. An xbox w/MAME can do a lot of the old ones for when I get nostalgic…

    But there is something about the orignal hardware for sure… just make the game more “true” to play or something :)

  • 8 tedrick // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    I hope he didn’t forget Contra. That game ate up my family’s laundry quarters like you wouldn’t believe.

  • 9 lls_in_scv // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Very cool! I’m born in 1957, so when the video arcade craze started I was in my mid-20’s.. and it’s addictive! My boyfriend and I spent lots of hours and quarters over the years playing. Favs were Ms PacMac, Centipedes, Milipedes, but my absolute favorite is JOUST! I now have it on my son’s PS2 though it’s not the same thing (he’s 17 and loves Joust too … so we play together).

    Very cool that you’re saving a part of our cultural & generational history!

  • 10 asymptote // Mar 6, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    You know you can download and play all of these on a laptop - rom-world.com - instead of taking up a whole room full of games that are primarily woodboard…

  • 11 asymptote // Mar 6, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    I wrote the above comment a few seconds into reading the article and now I see your argument of using full-scale instead of emulation. Can you post a list of all the games you have?

  • 12 Artie // Mar 6, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Asteroids
    Atari Football
    Bubbles
    Circus Charlie
    Crystal Castles
    Food Fight
    Gauntlet
    Hockey
    Kangaroo
    Karate Champ - Player Vs Player
    Kangaroo cabinet
    Kick
    Pepper II
    Pong Doubles
    Robotron: 2084
    Rolling Thunder
    Slither
    Star Wars
    Tank II
    Tempest
    Timber
    Track & Field
    Warlords

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  • 14 caffeine rox // Mar 6, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    That brings back some memories…

    You have to love the old classics. By todays standards they are simple, sure, but they were FUN! Simple, enjoyable games.

  • 15 Ray Rivera // Mar 6, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    As usual everyone check out Mame and mameworld and aracadecontrols and KLOV to keep up with arcade news and emulation and the community. I still prefer to have arcade machines myself if possible. The overall aesthetic, the vinyl, the plastic, the warm rainbow saturated pixels from a real monitor, the fantastic side art and of course the memories. I don’t think people interact as much except online. I guess we are becoming more and more an insular culture which is a little sad. I do own a Virtua Fighter 2 machine and 3 extra pcbs. And speaking of vectors I still love Star Castles. I played it at our local version of SpacePort (Everyone had one in their town didn’t they?). Hey Brian I’m in San Diego, when can I visit LA for a meet? No pressure. LOL

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  • 18 Telkom // Mar 7, 2008 at 6:36 am

    Keep those memories alive Brian! Ahh, how sweet our memories become with age :)

  • 19 Dave Nofmeister // Mar 7, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Great article.

    I wish I could jump back into the ’80’s just to relive the old arcade days!

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  • 22 Canadian Free Stuff Guru // Mar 9, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Man I miss these arcade games! Now I feel nostalgic.

  • 23 Sherrie // Mar 10, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    I am lucky enough to always be on the invites for these parties. People stay until 2 am. It’s hard to stop playing Gauntlet. Also, possibly, because there are 4,000,000 levels in Gauntlet with no apparent ending?

  • 24 Jeff // Mar 11, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Don’t forget, these games may be just “woodboard”, but they do have some value. They aren’t making any more, and even though the price demanded fluctuates, you can be smart and know with some certainty that you can get your money back if you have to. That is hard to say about much of anything today with our throw away culture.

    He doesn’t even mention that he has a Pepper II, which may be more rare than the Timber in the eye of the beholder.

    I don’t think his electric bills are all that high. You would be surprised how little electricity each game takes, you home computer would take more. Granted, you only have one computer, but he probably only runs all 22 machines for limited amounts of time.

  • 25 Chris Ainsworth // Mar 28, 2008 at 10:32 am

    This guy is totally living my dream. Awesome!

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  • 28 Cooking // Jul 26, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    I don’t see any cooking games… http://www.ecookinggames.com/

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